| The issue of 9mm vs. 45 calibers is relatively | | | | I don't expect Glock to win a US military contract - the |
| unimportant in the military (any military) of today. It is like | | | | American military doesn't seem to like the idea of a |
| the US Army worrying itself sick about a saber for the | | | | pistol without multiple external safety levers and |
| cavalry. Some companies have come up with a lot | | | | mechanisms. Glock pistols, great as they may be, use |
| better solution to the pistol for today's soldiers and | | | | simple, idiot-proof internal safety mechanisms. If the |
| Marines that don't need or wish to carry an assault | | | | Army did go with a Glock, it would be interesting to |
| rifle. LOAD and LOCK! A couple of thoughts and | | | | see if they would adopt the new 45 GAP cartridge. |
| hopes. 1st-"Don't count your chickens 'til they're | | | | Same caliber bullet, even available in the same bullet |
| hatched" We need to write/contact/input the testers | | | | weights, loaded into a shorter case - to allow for a |
| and decision makers and let them know WE want the | | | | smaller handgun that takes advantage of modern |
| .45 ACP. | | | | propellants. I personally don't like Glock. I have large |
| Second-For the hundred, no thousand plus time a 9mm | | | | hands and shoot pistols with a double handed grip. I |
| bullet is .355 cal, a .45 is BIGGER thus it makes a | | | | personally like the Colt 1911A1 series for its balance, |
| BIGGER hole in the target. This means more blood | | | | weight, and comfort. But that's me. How about the |
| loss- which translates to the enemy gets killed and the | | | | USP .45? SOFs of course have been using the Mk23 |
| American hopefully comes home and tells his | | | | for some time. |
| grandkids about reality land versus the "High-Tech" | | | | Who buys isn't always who gets. The Army's |
| star wars game players. | | | | Automotive Tank Command has bought pistols for the |
| 3rd-For the devoted 9mm types out there(yes you | | | | USAF for example.SOCOM is the buyer; everybody is |
| with the coco-puffs) read the FBI report about the | | | | going to get these. That's what the "joint" in Joint |
| "Miami Shootout", after which they traded in their 9mm | | | | Combat Pistol means. SOCOM sure does not need up |
| pistols, because of the facts of bullet wound | | | | to 645,000 pistols over 10 years. Some things are |
| examinations. 4th-Check-out the winners of most all | | | | already set. They spent the last year or so with |
| pistol matches: Almost everyone uses a 1911/1911A1 in | | | | market surveys, field suitability tests, etc looking at |
| .45 ACP! Remember folks-We are talking about the | | | | what's out there, trying stuff, deciding what they |
| ARMED FORCES of the USA...Sight Picture/Sight | | | | wanted. |
| Alignment! | | | | The Future Handgun System program wanted |
| There is a reason that most of the militaries that have | | | | adjustable grips, accessory rail, threaded bbl, modular |
| tested it have rejected it. Now, if the military wants a | | | | variable trigger operating system (SA to DA to DAO). |
| smaller primary weapon, the weapon already exists in | | | | The SOF Combat Pistol program wanted a 45 ACP |
| the inventory. It is the SOCOM pistol made by HK, | | | | and would have settled for another 1911. Those were |
| which for offensive purposes is a whole lot better than | | | | combined into this Joint Combat Pistol (JCP) program. |
| the P90. | | | | They want a 45 ACP, not a 45 GAP. Don't be |
| Note that this contract is being let by USSOCOM. That | | | | surprised if Glock can't even compete depending on |
| means it is for a sidearm, not a primary weapon. And | | | | what the details are for the trigger operating system. |
| as a sidearm (meaning a secondary weapon carried | | | | Some folks think they had the HK USP full size and |
| by someone who also carries a primary weapon, | | | | compact Tactical/P2000 in mind when they wrote the |
| usually a rifle), the M1911 .45 is superior to the P90 and | | | | specs. Details will be in the RFP (request for proposals) |
| to the HK and definitely to the Beretta. Don't be | | | | that comes out next. |
| surprised if a Glock wins this contract. | | | | |